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J. Mark Bertrand

So what classes at Calvin DO the people who will sell attend? I'm wondering if I might have accidentally sat next to one of them. :)

Kathleen Popa

Not so fast, Mick. Before you go back to the old practices, would you (or somebody) pleeease tell us: What did Wangerin say? Marilynne and Leif and all the rest, what did they say???

Me

I'm still trying to work out if that was a dig at Ted Dekker.

Bobtank

As someone who attended Calvin's sister festival 'Art & Soul' at Baylor for its first few years of inception, I remember the excitement of finding Christian artists who didn't feel the necessity to lead us to the altar before the end of chapter 2. I have found myself working as a book buyer in a CBA store for the past 3 years, and feel disconnected from those voices who see their faith as more than a commercial enterprise.

I miss the good ole days

Mick

Though I don't agree with everything Dock's saying here, he's got a great refrain going about inferior art in Christian music: http://dickstaub.com/culturewatch.php?record_id=1004.

Mark, I was sorry we didn't hook up. I guess you were too busy with all the sychophants asking for autographs and what not. Should have made specific plans, I guess.

Kathleen, I can hardly recall now what even I said to anyone. I took notes, so maybe I'll give you another post about the comments that stood out to me before moving on. Mark had a nice overview at his site, I thought: jmarkbertrand.com. And CDs/videos of talks are available through Pat Worst (1-800-748-0122) at the Calvin College bookstore..

Bob, I'm feeling you. Amen, RG. I'm praying for that too.

Jeanne Damoff

Ah, how lovely. This is good to hear, Mick. So glad Calvin came through for you. Sometimes an abandoned swing around the dance floor with the muse is better medicine than finding the next best-selling author. Even for an ack editor.

Love the line about marrying your cousin for her road-kill stew. :)

Susan Meissner

Well, I admit I like to take a whack at the dead horse, too (hope it don't end up in the road kill stew, though. . . ), mostly because I still head to the ABA shelves to look for fiction with prose that is drop-dead gorgeous. CBA writers are making strides, but I don't know if anybody in the ABA is taking us seriously yet. We've (myself included) allowed the message to mess with the mechanics 'cause we think it's "the message" that makes the book Christian. Why can't it be the other way around? Why can't it be astounding literary style that points to an astoundingly creative God?

J. Mark Bertrand

"Why can't it be astounding literary style that points to an astoundingly creative God?" Exactly. The heavens declare the glory of God, and if we aspire to something remotely similar for our work, we could learn something from how the heavens do this (and don't).

Kathleen Popa

"...we could learn something from how the heavens do this (and don't)."

Yes, go on...

Tamsin Addison

I completely agree. I like it when my work is published, but the fact that it never was for 10 years didn't stop me writing!

Jeanne Damoff

Kathleen, I can't speak for Mark, but I know what his words mean to me. Here's a direct quote from the workshop notes I used when Mick and I taught together at Mount Hermon:

"Beauty also speaks. The heavens declare the glory of God. . . We need to soak before beauty and write from the ache it produces. This concept of wrapping words around beauty is one of my mantras. I’ve written about it on Master’s Artist and elsewhere. I honestly think it touches on worship. When we find the right words—the right metaphor for beauty—we have a tangible version of the intangible we can give to someone else. A little piece of God’s glory, displayed for human eyes, breaking human hearts."

What the heavens don't do is overexplain themselves or drive their message into the ground. They simply are. We see them, and our hearts break with longing to know the Maker behind the majesty.

As creators made in the image of the Creator, shouldn't our art follow suit? I think so.

Angie

Mick,

Don't have a brilliant comment.

Liked your post.

Wish I could've been there.

Working like a dog to be there one day soon.

Kathleen Popa

Mark and Jeanne, I really love that. I'll try to write from the ache. Thanks. K.

siouxsiepoet

ah mick, your post bummed me out. people use poetry as the funny way to talk about not selling because they are not poets. it sucks to be a poet and know it is a hopeless scenario. makes one want to take that long walk off the very short pier.

so, my face is downcast. but that's okay. it's just reality. reality really sucks.

that's why i avoid it.
suz.

Margo

Mmm, yeah, I see where you're coming from. Quality art for God whether it mentions him or not. Good goal, absolutely.

I'm just led a little differently. When I get to Heaven and go through some celestial receiving line or however we meet all the Bible writers--awesome thought!--I want to hold my (future) book and say "Here's my *small* contribution to getting people up here."

And you have to be a little specific to do that, I think. : )

To paraphrase a song, what if mine's the only Christian book some will ever see? Wow. Again, awesome thought. : )

PropagandaPhobe

If books are going to be published specifically with the intent of increasing the headcount in Heaven, it would be nice for them to have content warning labels. Oh wait, I guess they already do.

Rebecca Grabill

I should have gone. Right here in GR, a mile-or-so away, and I stayed home. (With an infant, true, but absent is absent.)

Knowing Calvin as I do, I'm surprised a CBA editor made it past the registration screeners.

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